Getting out of Worgen starting area

[mortnoct]

I've encountered a quest in the Worgen starting area that I've not been able to do. I've tried it a dozen times, but can't get it. It's the one that involves Sylvanas, and I never see Tobias Whatever, so I can't follow him.

Meanwhile, I've hit level 12, and keep getting prompted to move on to the next guide. If I agree, it tells me to go somewhere in Darkshore. Unfortunately, it offers no clue as to HOW I am to get there. Seems to be a bit of a problem.

[Kamchak]

I had some trouble with finding Sylvanas the first few times I ran the worgen zone. The best advise I can give you is to accept the quest, then go outside the building and around. Unfortunately I am unable to log in right now, and I haven't done this zone in a while, so this is 100% by memory.
It took me a few times of accepting the quest and going around to find Sylvanas, but I eventually found him.
HINT on when you do find him: target him and dont untarget him until you reach the water in the building. It's dark and he is not easy to track on a first run through.
As for leaving the starting zone, since this was built as an instance (same as the DK starting zone), you will have to quest out.
Dont get too upset trying to find Sylvanas. Just accept the quest, and look for him for a couple minutes. If you didnt see him, abandon the quest and re-accept, and try again.

[mortnoct]

I just tried it again. I found my way into the cathedral, and found the place where I'm to jump into the water (on the right side). But nothing happened. I waited for several minutes, and no Sylvanas, never saw Tobias, just when he said to jump into the water, but I was only part way along outside when he said to jump, no where near any water.

I don't know why Blizz made this quest so difficult.

[Kamchak]

You cant get to the water without Sylvanas, unfortunately, and finish the quest. Where I found him was behind the questgivers building, before crossing the canal. I remember waiting at the quest giver for 15 min for that NPC to show, thinking it was like an escort quest and it had to reset. Then I abandoned and re-accepted, then went to the water like you did, only several times.
It is a pain, but if you are into the lore aspect of wow, it is a critical piece of information given.

NOTE: If you have the waypoints where Sylvanas is found once you do find him, that would be something I could ask the team to implement into the guide.

[cabby]

Going from memory here. When facing the quest giver there's a door to the left leading out back behind the building. As soon as you accept the quest head out that door and turn left and go to the corner of the building. You should find Tobias right in that area and be able to follow him. He appears outside the building when you accept the quest which is what can throw everyone off.

One thing that can help to spot him is if you make a small macro fast before accepting the quest that's just a simple:

/target Tobias

Then all you do is accept the quest and hit that macro while running outside.

[Cartman]

At the end of the Worgen guide you may encounter phasing bugs so if something does not work you may try logging out and back in.
I got stuck after the 20 minute long battle when the NPC to turn the quest in did not appear inside the house as the quest did not properly complete. I had to abandon the quest, go back all the way to the quest giver and start this all over...

[mortnoct]

At the end of the Worgen guide you may encounter phasing bugs so if something does not work you may try logging out and back in.
I got stuck after the 20 minute long battle when the NPC to turn the quest in did not appear inside the house as the quest did not properly complete. I had to abandon the quest, go back all the way to the quest giver and start this all over...

I created a macro that said:

/target Tobias

and put it the first action bar spot (for convenience).

Accepted the quest, dasted out the door to the left and hit the macro.

BINGO! Tobias was targeted, and was to the left. I ran up to him and he led the way. You have to keep running up next to him everytime he stops. I don't know how long he stays at each stop, but it was easy to keep up. Piece of cake, once you know the magic!

Some people suggested turning on NPC bars, but I didn't have to do it.

[daeymien]

Yeah, Tobias has a habit of spawning where you can't see him immediately and the quest pseudo-fails if you don't keep up with him (including if you don't stop with him at the given points and instead just run into the chapel).

As was mentioned, best best it to immediately head out the door behind and to the left of the quest giver after accepting. That offers the best bet of keeping up with him when he takes off.

[mortnoct]

I liked the "/target Tobias" macro approach. It worked very well.

I forgot to mention that Tobias shows up with a BLUE name plate. I recall having seen him before, but assumed that he was a player and so kept looking for Tobias as a GREEN.

I vote for including this in the guide, or some of it at least.

[chaos5061]

Just think that when the 4.1 patch comes out when you target something you get it as a blip on your minimap which will make this even easier.

[Kamchak]

Think Ill reroll a worgen just to get the waypoints for this NPC.

[ZG Support 1]

We are going to take out the skip feature for this particular guide and will track down this bug if we can and fix that as well. Thanks for letting us know about it.