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    #61
    I think dugi's guide might be better.

    Well, dugi's guide has a gold guide and dungeon guide. And i think that is the fastest leveling path, then just plain old questing. Anyways, the game is about socializing and having fun, questing is almost nothing of that. So im just saying my perspective here. Not that the guides isen't good or anything, your guides are great, im 1-45 in 3 days so far. But i just think that dugi's guide has a good point with making a dungeon guide. And i will probably buy there guide and start using it.

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      #62
      Originally posted by eveadiir View Post
      Well, other guide's guide has a gold guide and dungeon guide. And i think that is the fastest leveling path, then just plain old questing. Anyways, the game is about socializing and having fun, questing is almost nothing of that. So im just saying my perspective here. Not that the guides isen't good or anything, your guides are great, im 1-45 in 3 days so far. But i just think that other guide's guide has a good point with making a dungeon guide. And i will probably buy there guide and start using it.
      We would recommend you looked at some of the reviews of the guide in question. Most customers complain that their leveling guide tells them to kill mobs 3+ levels above their level at times and is generally a lot slower than Zygor. Similar issues might plague their dungeon guide as well. Other competitors might have more guides than we do, but that is not indicative of quality products. It also isn't hard to do since most just rush products out to release so they can start making money.

      Zygor Guides works on our products and polishes them until they reach the level of quality customers have come to expect from our guides. We will never release a poorly put together guide just so we can say we have it to or before anyone else. That is why we remain the largest World of Warcraft guide company in the world. We don't say that to gloat, but rather, we are proud of our business policies and ethics and believe they are what makes us so successful.

      Other vendors do not worry about this. They just worry about throwing together a guide as fast as possible so they can try to use that against us by saying we're somehow "behind them". It's a classic example of quantity over quality.
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        #63
        Leveling by killing mobs seems to be faster than questing. Especially with rested bonus.
        Doing dungeons is nothing other than grinding. And you don't need a guide for that. Just use the dungeon browser and follow the guide while waiting for a group. You don't need a guide for the dungeons just look at various WoW websites for dungeon maps or use the atlas mod ingame.

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          #64
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnMCC...layer_embedded

          I personally hate this i find it very childish and i tried his trails vs Zygor it's slow i dl both of them on my mac and did an blood elf from 1-12 Zygor was 20 minutes faster

          what i find most funny is one mount is bought basically through RAF and the other you have to really work for through fishing

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            #65
            To be honest, I've only been playing WOW for just under a year so I've not got a great deal of experience of any other guides. That, plus I was pretty leary of forking over a wodge of cash to what was basically an anonymous internet entity.

            So I started out using Jame's Tour Guide mod and found it pretty much okay although it wasn't updated very often and it was (to be brutally honest) very inconsistent. So I did what I always do... a whole lot of internet research to locate the best free guide. And quickly came to the conclusion that there wasn't a whole lot on offer.

            So I researched "paid for" guides instead and found a lot of people recommending one guide over any of the others: Zygor's guides. So I took the plunge and forked over the cash to this anonymous entity and haven't looked back since. I honestly can't imagine switching back to any other guide:
            • The Smart Injection System makes leaping into the guide at any point really easy and painless
            • From my admittedly limited perspective, levelling is very quick and easy
            • Quest-chains are linked together and, if you skip one, it doesn't try to get you to do a later quest that you can't
            • The fact that there are both Alliance and Horde guides available from the same source, and of the same quality, is a big plus
            • Updates are quick and painless
            Last edited by overrideb1; September 6, 2010, 05:05 PM. Reason: Becuase correct spelling is everyone's friend!

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              #66
              No speciffic need for dungeon guide

              With Zygor guides, there is no speciffic need for a dungeon guide, because of SIS. I run a _lot_ of instances, which speeds up my leveling considerably, if I have the quests, but they are easily found using Wowhead.

              Anyway, the SIS quickly adapts, and I can continue elsewhere.

              What would be nice, is a separate list (.pdf?) of dungeon quests, and where to pick them up.
              QQ

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              The horrible truth is, that tinfoil hats enable mind control.

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                #67
                Originally posted by pinghansen View Post
                With Zygor guides, there is no speciffic need for a dungeon guide, because of SIS. I run a _lot_ of instances, which speeds up my leveling considerably, if I have the quests, but they are easily found using Wowhead.

                Anyway, the SIS quickly adapts, and I can continue elsewhere.

                What would be nice, is a separate list (.pdf?) of dungeon quests, and where to pick them up.
                I disagree. In game SIS dungeon support would provide a great addition to the guides. There are quests and gear with dungeons as well as the mob grinding and without SIS support I think most of us just skipped the whole dungeon aspect. Add to that the experience that will apply towards raids. My Zygor wishes would include periodic 'que for dungeons'. I'd really also like to see the guides monitor my bag(s) and tell me to find a vendor or ah to sell stuff to when they get full (and maybe messages like 'the next steps will take a while to complete. Take a potty break now'), but that's another day

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bjones9942 View Post
                  In game SIS dungeon support would provide a great addition to the guides.
                  Actually, we ARE in agreement. It would be a nice addition. But there is no actual need, as you can easily handle that yourself by picking up the dungeon quests manually. But it would certainly be very nice, if ZG told us which quests to pick up when and where. Perhaps as an option.

                  I research which quests to get at wowhead.com, and queue for randoms as often as I feel like it - which usually is reflected in my gear, like on this little lock - OK, some of it is from having access to a tailor I also often deviate from the guide, if I notice a quest that will give me some nice gear - like the lock's boots. As a result, my gear changes so often, that I usually don't bother with enchants. I have mats for the heirloom enchants, but none of the enchanters I know, have the skills.

                  Originally posted by bjones9942 View Post
                  without SIS support I think most of us just skipped the whole dungeon aspect.
                  Agreed. Before SIS, it was a bother picking up where you left, as we got further and further ahead of the guide, and it was hard to judge which quests to skip. That also took out the whole social aspect, as we were uncomfortable with deviating from the guide. I know quite a few players that kept their alts secret, so they could work on the leveling undisturbed.

                  Originally posted by bjones9942 View Post
                  monitor my bag(s) and tell me to find a vendor or ah to sell stuff to when they get full
                  Well, we are allowed to think for ourselves, even if it seems to be falling out of fashion

                  While we are at it, I've seen quite a few requests for reminders about visiting trainers. That is easily handled with FuBar_TrainerFu (and FuBar2Broker). I'll be happy to send the config file with all the alliance trainers I've encountered.
                  QQ

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pinghansen View Post
                    Well, we are allowed to think for ourselves, even if it seems to be falling out of fashion
                    My issue with full bags is that it always seems to happen right when you get into a quest that's taking a little time to complete. I end up 'dropping the cheapest thing' (use an addon) several times. Of course this usually happens when lvling 1-20 (before I have large bags), which is also the time you really don't want to be getting rid of anything of value. [ok, now that I have the Frostweave Bag pattern on my main, bags are one of the first things I do for a new alt - but this *was* an issue before that happened].

                    Originally posted by pinghansen View Post
                    I research which quests to get at wowhead.com, and queue for randoms as often as I feel like it - which usually is reflected in my gear, like on this little lock - OK, some of it is from having access to a tailor I also often deviate from the guide, if I notice a quest that will give me some nice gear - like the lock's boots. As a result, my gear changes so often, that I usually don't bother with enchants. I have mats for the heirloom enchants, but none of the enchanters I know, have the skills.
                    I like to turn the guide off and just go exploring at times. Kills the monotony of 'go here/do this' over and over My main is also a tailor, most of my toons are cloth wearers as well. I only have enchants I can do (threads) + the fishing buff on a pair of gloves I keep in my bag for armor swaps when doing the fishing dailies.

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                      #70
                      As some one who bought "The Other" guide, I can tell you from experience Zygor guide is 100% more polished and easier to use. The other guide does a poor job of giving you strategies or descriptions often requiring you constantly mousing over to get directions.

                      As for the dungeon guide, I would place it very low on my nice to have list, with a Cataclysm being #1, Gold Guide #2, and Professions Guide #3.

                      You can spend $50 to $130 on the other guide if you would like, but I promise you will gain nothing over the Zygor guide, and in fact it sub-par product.

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                        #71
                        I own the other guys dailies guide and dungeon guide.
                        The dailies guide is sub-par to Zygors, and the dungeon guide is..... interesting. Have yet to follow it on a dungeon run, if that tells you anything.
                        Nope... $$ spent to check out the competition, thats all that was.
                        "The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas."

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                          #72
                          Guides I tried

                          I started out using Jame's guide on the Horde at that time I couldn't or I didn't want to buy a leveling guide per say. Then I heard Joanas guide is good. So I brought his guide and it somewhat worked but you had paper all over the place etc. (Same with Jame's guide) alot of the quest seemed to want you to buy items etc which sometimes you CAN't Find in the AH or Quest that not all classes can do well. For Alliance I never could use brains even though i did buy his I found his guide lacking in somethings joanas seemed to be better in some ways.

                          Then I heard about Penns world and brought his and at the same time my wife saw a add about Zygor and too be honest I was thinking about buying this guide cause I did hear some good things about yours. I have too say this guide is better Although I am a sticker in trying out other guides just to see "what is different or better then the other" Yes I am planning on buying Idimmise and other guide's just too see how they are.

                          Too be honest I am not bad at leveling etc but what I lack is self displine in the such I get lost where to go next. And from the guides I have used in the past etc Zygor's has alot more control and much more supportive people then the others. There are times though that I wish I could get a refund back from Bains, Joanas and Penns world but oh well. Also here is something else to think about even though people complain about this guides place. other guides for both is 170 dollars for both sides. And Idissies is 47 for one side and they don't have a buy both option.

                          So by price, by quaultiy but support, I would say Zygor is by far the best. (Had to change or the cost for one guide)

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                            #73
                            I Didn't Buy Any Others

                            As a frgual (read cheap) mature (read old) individual, I researched all the available Guides for quite some time. As a business person, it disturbs me when peers start slamming each other. It impressed me that ZYGOR opted for the high ground and stayed cool. Then I tried some of the free guides, can't remember which, but they just didn't cut it. Now that I have all 80's, except my priest, thanks to ZYGOR, it's like, what's next? So we wait for Cat. Financially and quality wise, the ZYGOR Guides have kept me satisfied. Bring on the expansion. BTW, don't know what their support is like, never had to use it. LOL

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                              #74
                              Zygor Vs other guide's

                              Just like to say as the first post that I have been playing for approx 4 years and used a lot of guides The first real one I used was one called Azuarc's Levelling Guide which you can still find and use but it was written when BC first came out by just a player so it only go's to 70 but hay its free.

                              I'm using this guides for Rep and Achievements' since Blizzard has made levelling very easy now, anyway to get back to the issue while other guide have one or two extra things in it it's not as slick and a little buggy compared to Zygors.

                              As in all guides some of your logic is a little strange - or it could be just me hehe and at least when you as the player to do a escort quest its do-able solo

                              It would be interesting on what class you tested the guide on just because as a hunter I NEVER enter a cave without a pet due to we are hopeless in hand to hand combat as you ask me do as a Nelf.

                              Anyway all in all its still one of the better guides out there
                              Elune be with you

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                                #75
                                I have been using the guide for some time now and find it great to use, my last lvl 80 was a priest did it in 6 days 1 hr, having played about 5 hr of pvp I cant complain. Currently lvling a rouge lvl 50 and I have been playing 2 day 6 hrs. This is the best guide out there

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