Launch! 6 All-New Zygor Products?! Video Explains All

[dulak]

Sounds like this may not be in game content. Because someone would just sign up for one month possibly to get the guides and then cancel. No need to re-up until the next update comes out. But if the guides are all offline content then you save your guide and can remove their access to those guides. I prefer in game guides myself. But still wouldn't pay a monthly subscription for it especially if it wasn't in game.

You are killing us Zygor. I would just give everyone the information now rather than wait while your customer base continues to lose faith in you and becomes even more disgruntled about what you are doing. You are allowing it to fester.

I'm 90% sure that the new guides will all be in game content. Basically b/c it would only make sense. Rep guides: Will tell you where to go and what quests to do for rep. Prof guides: Will tell you where to go (would seem to be a bit of a pattern eh?), what materials you require, possibly an estimated shopping list. Achievement guides: This one should be obvious.

There aren't very many guides that they've released that are out of game content. The AH guide, food and stats guide, arch guide (mainly b/c it's dummy proof). I can't think of any others but there may be one or 2 more.

[dirtyrockers]

The problem is.... you will not get anything extra every month.

but you will pay every month..

what about this? i have a subscription for 6 months. payed $60. (no big updates)

then a new member takes a subscription payes $10. and got the same content... but i've payed $60 for it???

[lodion]

240 at once for all 6 of the new guides.

That is a bloody big IF right there. Would anyone seriously pay $40 for a mount and pet guide?

[dulak]

A few questions:

1. Why get new subscribers the same content als old customers? We have paid a price to get the guides and now we have to pay the same fee per month to get a few new guides. I already have lifetimes updates to the guides, why should I pay the same fee as people, who are new? I would maybe willing to buy new guides this way, but not change my old guides to a subscription.

2. What if I cancel a subscriptions? Will alle guides be deleted or just the updates stop? It would be relly bad, if you pay month or maybe years and then have to cancel due financial problems and loose all of the content you have paid for.

3. What about the old guides in this case? Do I change completly or get my lifetime updates back after canceling the subscription?

I think 10$ per month is way to much. Within one year I would have payed nearly more than I've payed for the guides I own.

I was really looking forward to this new guides, but I think under this circumstances Zygor will not be my guide. I have to say I'm dissappointed. Of course, you want to make money with your guides and I was willing to pay 40-60 bucks for a new guide - maybe just to support you, and maybe more than other guides due your excellent support. I always thought it was fair. I own the guides now and don't have to think, if I can afford them next month. Now it becomes expensive and we depend on you. What do we get every month worth 10-15$?

1) While we have paid a bit of money for what we've got, a lot of people can't afford to drop that much at once for the guides, therefore, the cheaper monthly sub model will pull in more members as it's a bit easier on the wallet.

2) If you cancel, your guides won't be deleted as they're stored in the addons folder of your WoW directory. ie On your PC. Zygor and his team can't access that to delete them as that would be against the law.

3) With the guides you already own, they're paid for. You'll continue to get updates on them as long as WoW is around and Zygor and his team work on them. Those are yours and that won't change. The lifetime updates policy is still in effect for the current members.

As to it being worth it? Due to not knowing what the sub will be, I'll give some opinions:
15 = Not worth it in my opinion. I feel if I'm going to pay another 15 a month, I'll just 2 box WoW and get it over with.
10 = Also not worth it in my opinion. But it is a bit more manageable for some.
5 = Defiantly worth it and is very manageable by most.

Keep in mind they're also releasing another 6 guides. Most of which have been requested by countless members here.

[mythos44]

This is what I'm thinking

Sounds like this may not be in game content. Because someone would just sign up for one month possibly to get the guides and then cancel. No need to re-up until the next update comes out. But if the guides are all offline content then you save your guide and can remove their access to those guides. I prefer in game guides myself. But still wouldn't pay a monthly subscription for it especially if it wasn't in game.

You are killing us Zygor. I would just give everyone the information now rather than wait while your customer base continues to lose faith in you and becomes even more disgruntled about what you are doing. You are allowing it to fester.

[brightumbrae]

Someone had started another thread about credit for the subscriptions if you had bought the guide already. Free 'lifetime' updates were promised for what you bought. Paying extra for new guides or expansions, I can understand that and was willing to pay a small fee for it. But the moderator who closed the other thread said "I will say this tho, if you got your guides about the same time as your forum join date then that would mean that you've already gotten a year or two worth of value out of the guides. "

So, because we've paid a lump sum up front and used it for a bit, we are no longer valued customers... even though we keep supporting Zygor by buying the upgrades?

And no one can convince me that I'm getting a better 'deal' by paying for something monthly rather than buying it outright.

[Bomyne]

I've given it a bit more thought.

Imagine they charged 14.99 per month.

Imagine they go with the old system. (40 dollars per guide)

That's 179.88 per year

or

240 at once for all 6 of the new guides.

Hmm. It's food for thought.

[patje]

OMG $14.99 cannot be right... That is what I pay for a game that I can play independent of your guides... but I can't use your guides independent of the game... $180 per year??? I smell a new business manager that is going to destroy Zygor....

How many Level and "Daily&Event" guides could be buyed in the old system with 180$? I think it must be two sets (Alliance & Horde) at least...

[mick12330]

If you sign up you will actually get 6 new guides instantly, not just 1, for a fraction of the price of a single guide right now, not to mention never having to pay for expansion upgrades or any future products we create.

I would be paying by the month for guides i already purchased.

[mick12330]

"all together that well over $100 seeing I have I believe every guide. Then "Bob" comes in and pays $30 and I'm supposed to feel appreciated because I to can buy the next guide for a "low price per month" which really then because it includes the guides I already have then it's really not that cheap because I'm paying x per month for 1 new guide."

I agree ...............

[patje]

A few questions:

1. Why get new subscribers the same content als old customers? We have paid a price to get the guides and now we have to pay the same fee per month to get a few new guides. I already have lifetimes updates to the guides, why should I pay the same fee as people, who are new? I would maybe willing to buy new guides this way, but not change my old guides to a subscription.

2. What if I cancel a subscriptions? Will alle guides be deleted or just the updates stop? It would be relly bad, if you pay month or maybe years and then have to cancel due financial problems and loose all of the content you have paid for.

3. What about the old guides in this case? Do I change completly or get my lifetime updates back after canceling the subscription?

I think 10$ per month is way to much. Within one year I would have payed nearly more than I've payed for the guides I own.

I was really looking forward to this new guides, but I think under this circumstances Zygor will not be my guide. I have to say I'm dissappointed. Of course, you want to make money with your guides and I was willing to pay 40-60 bucks for a new guide - maybe just to support you, and maybe more than other guides due your excellent support. I always thought it was fair. I own the guides now and don't have to think, if I can afford them next month. Now it becomes expensive and we depend on you. What do we get every month worth 10-15$?

[szasha]

It seems the crazy & absolutely barefaced price of 15$/month for both factions is right, cause if you check "Affiliates" it says:
"With our subscription service that gives access to our entire suite of 10 products, you could earn about $7.50 per customer you bring our way - per month."
So we have to pay 15$ that you can offer your affiliates half of it ? Thank you Zygor !

WOW it does seem that they have determined that price point. I did click on Affiliates (below) and you are right... there it is. What a f'ing joke...

[mick12330]

What about us long time customers that have bought guides over the years. What kinda break are we going to get ?? I spent alot of money on these guides.

[szasha]

OMG $14.99 cannot be right... That is what I pay for a game that I can play independent of your guides... but I can't use your guides independent of the game... $180 per year??? I smell a new business manager that is going to destroy Zygor....

[maningrey]

LOL even their youtube video has negative comments!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCErm...el_video_title

Listen to us Zygor, we don't want this!