MoP: War: is it really? Or is it fake?

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We're planning on opening the LFR wings of the Throne of Thunder raid sequentially, beginning on Thursday, February 7, by 11am PST (2pm EST, 8pm CET). We will leave LFR open through the weekend, so hop on the PTR, check it out, and share your feedback!

The item level requirement for the 5.2 LFR sections is 480 -- if you can't meet this threshold, note that there are vendors with epic PvP and PvE set pieces that may help you reach it.

Please use this thread to discuss the world boss Oondasta, who looms over the Isle of Giants off the northern coast of Kun-Lai Summit. He's fairly challenging and, to my knowledge, has not been defeated at all yet.

Guilds that are logging on to test our other raid encounters in Throne of Thunder are encouraged to check him out, perhaps in between testing sessions. I'll even make a post here naming and congratulating the players who manage to secure the ever-prestigious World First Public Test Realm Kill(TM).

Yes, it's happening, and next PTR build you should be able to test it. Please use this thread for your feedback on the experience, and please expect there will be spoilers here.

(Please do not use this thread to discuss other warlock or non-warlock related topics, including but not limited to, your pitch for a quest line for your class.)

To begin the Black Harvest questline on the PTR, you can find an item that starts the quest as a drop on the "Green Flame Infernal." When 5.2 goes live, the item will be rarer but not stupidly rare.

Known Issues:
1) At one point you will be asked to speak with a Warlock trainer. The quest is not hooked up to every possible trainer, so keep talking to trainers until you find one.
2) At a later point in the quest, there is a timed element. In the current build, you must finish the trial within the time frame given or be forced to redo it. In a future build, you will be able to proceed even if you fail the time check. This will make sense when you see it.

One request: if you are providing tuning feedback (i.e. if a fight is too easy or too hard), could you please let us know the ilevel of the character you're using?

We appreciate all the feedback.

the Den of Mortal Delights part isn't particularly clear as to what I'm supposed to do or what will complete the objective. It says "loot everything you can in the time available" and I'm looting everything I can click on, but I'm still failing the objective.
I edited the original instructions, but this is the second issue I mentioned. The timer is supposed to expire, at which point you are done looting and continue on your adventure. On your version of the PTR, if the timer expires before you reach the end of the loot run, you fail. This isn't intended. For now, your best bet might be to ignore the loot and just book it to the end.

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Will the 'always hit' apply to moving targets as well or is it just for stationary targets?
Always hit your primary target, even if moving.

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
We are reverting the nerf to Body and Soul. It will stay at 4 sec duration.
Holy Fire will be instant baseline. We agree it is an unnecessary nerf to remove that 5.1 functionality, but we also like the range increase from the 5.2 version of the glpyh, so just removing Holy Fire's cast time seems like the right move. Solace will still be positioned as an upgraded Holy Fire that generates mana.
We understand that reverting the Devouring Plague change (restoring it to its 5.1 functionality) is a nerf to Shadow mastery, but overall we are still sympathetic to the arguments that losing burst from Devouring Plague is a negative in PvE and doesn't really solve the PvP burst problem (which is more about holding procs). We haven't adjusted Shadow's PvE damage yet in any case.

Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
We are going to try Grand Crusader proc'd by CS, HotR and dodge and parry (at lower chances for each).
We are going to buff Seal of Justice and Seal of Righteousness damage. Neither of these Seals is seeing enough use. Justice was always intended to be a strong PvP Seal, and it just isn't right now. We haven't solidified numbers yet - I'm just sharing our intent.

PvP
We're making a change to the way damage-to-healing conversions work so that the healing is not affected by resilience. The healing will be based on how much damage would have been done as if the target had no resilience. If you hit an opponent for 10K and have a mechanic that converts damage into 50% healing, your hit may land for 6K because of resilience, but the heal will still be 5K (50% of the unmitigated damage). This only applies to resilience, not to armor, Shield Wall or other forms of damage reduction.

This change currently includes Atonement, Glyph of Battle Healer, Ancestral Guidance, Vampiric Embrace, Nature's Vigil, Glyph of Siphon Life, Eminence, Glyph of Flame Shock and Leeching Poison.

Related, we have read feedback that certain mechanics, such as Retribution's mastery, Hand of Light, are double-dipping from resilience. If this happened, then your attack would be mitigated by resilience and then the mastery proc (which is supposed to be a percentage of the main attack) would also be mitigated by resilience. However, we can find no evidence that this is actually happening. In our testing, Hand of Light is never mitigated by resilience a second time. If anyone has additional information, please share.

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
The 2pc Windwalker PvE bonus no longer drops spheres in a circle. They drop right next to you, much like the Brewmaster's Gift of the Ox, so that you can shift side to side and pick them all up.

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
We are currently trying Overpower on a 1 sec GCD (again). We like the way it feels and we like that it boosts Arms' damage without having to increase the damage of special attacks (which risks PvP burst), so we're going to let you guys try it next PTR build.

Leeching poison not getting that change or just forgot to list it?
It is and I did forget (and edited the note above).

Will they still be getting reduced by Battle Fatigue, or are those conversions set to ignore it as well?
Battle Fatigue will still reduce the healing.

I feel like there's a huge disconnect here between the way we play and the way you guys play. The issue with this set bonus isn't the way the orbs are dropped, it's that extra energy is very rarely something we ever need.
Our suspicion is you are viewing this through the lens of 5.1, where you are often GCD capped. The 5.2 mastery changes open up a lot more GCDs (that you can then fill with extra energy). Have you tried the set bonus on the PTR?

Battle Fatigue is gone on the PTR, that's why a ton of feedback about some hybrids heals in the ptr are false. Just saying that this is a cause of some incorrect feedback, and make PVP on the ptr quite frustrating to test.
This is accurate. Battle Fatigue isn't working at the moment on the PTR. We're aware of it and we keep that in mind when evaluating feedback. It's a good idea for you all to do so as well.

I don't care so much about Shattering throw (mostly a PVP thing), or Cleave (I don't mind if it's useless much much HS is for us), but Whirlwind, Sweeping Strikes, and Thunderclap all really need to be looked at.
Awhile ago, we made Whirlwind only cost 20 rage for Arms to address Arms needing to spend more rage on Overpower. I may have forgotten to report it and I don't think it's in the patch notes. Cleave is supposed to be expensive (like Heroic Strike). Thunder Clap is really cheap already. Sweeping Strikes is expensive but also quite powerful so we suspect it's okay, but we'll adjust if needed.

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Patch 5.2 Class DPS Balance
The ones that are played by players who know their class, the raid mechanics, and can adapt to situations on the fly.
I have nothing to add here.

No, I kid. But that was an excellent point.

Something that Ghostcrawler has brought up in the past is that top players will tend to hone in on a specific spec, and wring the most out of it. Parses are posted showing the results, and others follow suit. Soon the parses get dominated by players doing very well with a particular class and spec. Now, we know from internal testing that other options might be competitive, or even better, but because of the... uh, I guess I'll call it the 'echo effect', those specs never really get a chance to shine because everyone has already found something that works, and works well.

Of course, that's not always the case. Sometimes those other specs might not be getting spotlight time because they're much harder to get optimal performance out of, or other factors. Still, it's a real phenomenon.

The other thing to keep in mind is that we (as a community) have developed a strange relationship with damage numbers. Once upon a time, there were pretty broad differences in dps between the highest and lowest dps classes. Bringing the wrong class could have a real impact on your ability to win a fight. Over the years I think we've gone a very long way toward fixing that, and the gap between the different classes and specs has narrowed considerably. Instead of 50 and even 100% differences in output, now we're usually talking about 5 and 10% differences. At these ranges, skill, timing, and knowledge play a more central role than ever before in determining how much practical damage a class is capable of, and even the classes that aren't topping the charts are contributing essential and meaningful amounts of damage.

Don't get me wrong, I have fun vying for the top spot too. I'm just saying that even if your class isn't the #1 top damage for a particular encounter, you're still in a position to help make an important contribution to the fight and ensure that your raid group is killing bosses.

Not trying to quote out of context, but a 10% difference will never sit well with the bulk of the community. I'd even go so far as to say a 5% difference is probably too much. Yeah it's come a long way, but it simply doesn't work in the community's perspective on damage output.
I know, and I get it, but I also think that's kind of unfortunate. Due to vagaries in individual player capabilities, differences in class ability mechanics, latency, encounter design, the moon phase, etc., getting dps numbers within a couple % points of each other is extremely difficult. In some cases, it's not even desirable. What I mean by that is, it's cool that some classes perform better in specific encounters when their unique traits become valuable. As I said earlier, being top dps is fun, if it's you. It can be fun OR frustrating to shoot for that target if it isn't you. Regardless, the point of good dps is defeating encounters, which is much more a product of the raid's efforts as a whole, and their collective skill and knowledge.

Would we like dps (and tanking, and healing) output to be even more balanced, just on principle? It would be awesome. Is there a point of diminishing returns where constantly tweaking those things doesn't significantly impact the success or failure of players and raid groups in general? I think that's also the case. I'm not saying we can't do better, but we do have to prioritize our time to yield the best overall experience we can provide. We've made progress over time, and we'll continue to try to do so. In the meantime, I hope that most players feel like they can choose the class they want to play, and not feel like that choice is holding them back from being a productive member of their group.

This notion that a thin layer of elite players is leading the masses down the wrong path is cute. It's way more likely that your lab results, for whatever reason, don't translate perfectly in a live environment.
Oh, we know for a fact that lab results don't always translate into a live environment. I didn't use the word 'wrong' because it would be... well, wrong. Our theory crafting community is smart, and their analysis is sound. The specs and classes they advocate have been proven to be strong and effective, and are the top performers in many cases.

What I'm suggesting is that often other specs can still be viable, competitive, and better than they're presented to be by parses, but that's not always reflected because they didn't make the initial theory crafting cut.

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Patch 5.2 LFR Item Level
A couple of points to make here.

First, the mere fact that item level 502 gear is available from Throne of Thunder LFR doesn't mean that the day patch 5.2 goes live, everyone will suddenly be handed a set of that 502 gear. The sections of LFR are going to unlock over time, and as a quick glance around the Raid & Dungeon forums will tell you, players sometimes only receive gold when defeating bosses, instead of loot (shocking, I know). Sure, maybe 3 months down the line, someone who has been running Throne LFR regularly will have slightly better gear than someone who's been doing Normal mode raids today. But the Normal mode raider who has spent those same 3 months in Normal mode Throne will have far superior items (ilvl 522) by that point anyway.

Second, part of the reason that the items are ilvl 502 is the existence of the array of Valor gear to which LFR-only players have had access to throughout patches 5.0 and 5.1. Many LFR-only players have a number of 489 and 496 Valor items that they've purchased and perhaps even upgraded. If we'd made Throne LFR drop ilvl 496 items, as suggested, a large number of LFR-only players would find that many of the 5.2 LFR drops were barely upgrades, or even downgrades in some cases.

And just to anticipate a familiar criticism ("But if the point of LFR is just to see the content, then what do they even need gear upgrades for?") let me just say that meaningful rewards are important for every playstyle, and character progression is an integral part of WoW.

LFR Loot System Feedback
LFR loot system is a joke, really. I've looted a couple of items 2 times already, and T14 head and shoulders 3 times. Instead of giving us duplicates the whole time, fix your lootsystem so we actually receive items that we still need and benefit us.
That's not the point of the LFR loot system. It's not mean to conveniently help you fill your gear slots with what you're missing. Is a different loot system from what we're used to see, but, as in any other loot system, it might take a while before you see the item you want finally drop.

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Is WoW Losing its Epicness?
With prestigious I mean the players that go all in and really gives their heart and soul to clear the most difficult encounters, setting a benchmark for the rest of us to strive for. While these players are a small % to the community as a whole, they are the forerunners and give others an incentive to push a little harder to get further. This is now slowly getting trivialized with pokemon, cute pandas, transmogs, LFR, daily rep gear better than raid gear etc etc.
This is where most arguments just lose it (for me, of course). You might, of course, strive to achieve what others have done, but projecting that same impression onto a majority doesn't really work. The fact is, most of the players probably can't even name the best raiding guild in the world, because they just don't care. So they might give an incentive to push to some folks, absolutely (those in the raiding competition, most likley).

Then you go on and proceed to argue that these other things that have nothing to do with bleeding edge progression raiding, for some reason, "dumb down" the game, when, in fact, it's just expanding the amount of choices you have at your disposal.

If the game loses it's focus on skills and perseverance, we're only left with the social aspects and I don't really see why we just couldn't sit on FB and play farmville or some pokemon app there?
If that's what you feel WoW offers to you, then I'm afraid you are not really looking at what those activities actually have to offer to any player that wants to do something else than bleeding edge progression raiding.

This paragraph makes it sounds like the 'prestigious raiders' are climbing Everest to collect medical supplies or something. They are people spending a lot of time on a computer game, not war heroes. I for one do not aspire to be like them, I just want to enjoy playing Wow.
Coriandra sums pretty well how some players feel. While for some of you raiding is everything that exists in WoW, for others is high-end PVP, for others is doing 5-man with their friends, challenge modes, scenarios, pet batlles, heck, it might be just flying around Azeroth just because they can.

The thing is, in a game as massive as World of Warcraft you can make of it whatever you want to, and it can't be a bad answer. As long as you have fun, and feel like you're getting from the game something worth it, then there's no real harm if some people just want to PVP all day long, or if some players would rather see all raid content through Raid Finder without caring at all about world firsts.

Also, please realize that some of the casual players of today, will be the hardcore players of tomorrow; and some, if not all hardcores of today, will be the casuals of tomorrow. There's no benefit in acting like it's two separate ponds that aren't connected and pretending you will always be part of this one pond.

Based on what some of you have commented and what I saw yesterday both here on the forums and on Twitter, I'm just curious...

Why do you feel the game has been dumbed down when, in fact, heroic raid bosses (for example) are increasingly harder? You've probably seen even players arguing that this tier in Normal feels harder than it should as well.

I mean, I totally understand you feel the game is easier than before, but consider three things:
-If you're a dedicated player, your skill will improve at some point, and (most likely) at early stages your improvement will be more dramatic, so the room to make the game harder without being outright silly (numerically or mechanically) gets smaller (which should help put in perspective the amazing work developers do when coming up with new boss fight mechanics and concepts).

-Heroic raiding content is increasingly more difficult (just compare Heroic Ragnaros to Heroic Sha of Fear and to Kil'jaeden, both mechanics wise and leeway to meet enrage timers, etc)

-Most of the things you mention as being dumbed down don't really seem to target you. But rather a different segment of players that might still be getting the hang of the game or don't want/can't devote as much of their time into the game as they would like.

Considering all this, how does it affect you in a negative way (assuming that you are at the high-end spectrum) that the game is more accessible or there are more things to do for players that are not you specifically?

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Thunderforged Tier Items
There are still no plans for tier items to be available with the Thunderforged designation.

"Raiding is too Difficult and Time Consuming"
Like why do I have to sit around in normals for 3 months wiping 8 hours a week to get anywhere? It was cool to release 3 raids, but whats the point if you're gonna make them so hard no one will even get to the second one before next tier? I thought normals were supposed to be easy and hms were supposed to be the hard raids? Wiping isn't fun... bring back DS difficulty. That was perfect for normals, people could actually do them in a respectable amount of time.
I can commiserate with your feelings, but the best thing you can do is share with us specifically what encounters or issues you're having. It may be something we may need to look at and address on our end, or it may be something that other players can give you additional insight on to make the encounters seem less difficult for you.

As I see it, these are the things that could be affecting how you and your Raid team are performing:

You've found a bug or an imbalance in an encounter that's causing you issues.
Your Raid team may not be using solid achievable tactics to approach the encounters and may need to refine them more.
Members of your Raid team may not have the most appropriate gear for the encounters. which can cause additional burden on other members who do have appropriate gear.
Members of the Raid team may need to change spell rotations or even talent options for specific encounters

Again, I think by citing specific issues and problems, you may find better success in overcoming them.

Mage (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Patch 5.2 Mage Balance
The Glyph of Evocation seems to have been updated on the PTR.

If you have the Invocation talent, a full Evocation will only heal you for 20%.
So, yes a mage will be able to spam it with the invocation talent, but since evocation reduces the channelling time and duration by 50%, this also means that it will heal exactly the same as it did before, since the glyph changed from 40% to 20% Health.

The old Invocation also had a 10 second cooldown, that means that although mages couldn't spam it, it wasn't that much different… Evocation used to last for 6 seconds, that means they would only have 4 seconds downtime on evocation and to be honest, going from 4 seconds of evocation downtime to 0 seconds, is not such a huge difference, because chances are, the first evocation that regenerated 40% HP for 6 seconds was enough of a buffer for the mage to wait 4 more seconds and move away or blink/frost nova/pet nova/sheep and do it again.

Still, I’m not trying to defend the changes here, simply stating some facts and my own opinion, keep in mind that anything is still subject to change and it’s exactly this kind of feedback that we need to make us rethink anything that might need tweaking. Thanks for keeping us on our toes.

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Patch 5.2 and Flameglow
I think its cute that its implied blizzard have a board meeting about pvp balance and get a bunch of feedback from all the devs.
Of course they do, they have regular meetings to discuss both game balance and the feedback they receive from the community. Just because you do not agree with some changes does not mean that they ignore your feedback or don't care, they simply cannot implement every change that the community mentions, especially if they feel it's not entirely beneficial to the health of the game.

On the topic of the Flameglow talent that is mentioned in this comic, I think there are some misunderstandings on how this new talent functions which I would like to address. First of all, this new talent for mages functions as follows:

Protects you with fiery energy, absorbing [ 20% of Fire Spell Power ] damage from each attack against you (up to a maximum of 30% of the attack).

Too many people are focusing on this talents potential to protect the mage from a maximum of 30% of an attack, where you must realise that under the more dire of circumstances where damage is high, it's protection is quite minimal. With most mages only just breaking 20,500 spell power unbuffed they will only protect themselves for a maximum of 7,000 damage with full procs and buffs, and 5,000 under normal buffed circumstances.

Let's take Ice Barrier which is also in the same tier as Flameglow, for a mage who has 20,000 spell power it will absorb approximately 70,000 damage. For Flameglow to absorb this damage at the same amount of spell power, you would need to take more than 17 hits where each hit does a minimum of 14,000 damage. Another situation you need to consider is that when big burst damage comes in to play.

If you are about to be hit hard, let's say you get hit by a big skill for 70,000 damage. At 20,000 spell power again, your Ice Barrier will absorb all of this, your Flameglow however will only absorb a measly 4000 damage and you will get hit for 66,000.

As you can see, Flameglow is certainly a good talent but it is not an outright winner against either Ice Barrier or even Temporal Shield. They all simply offer different situational uses and styles of gameplay. I would think that Flameglow works best against DoT's or lots of low damage, whereas Ice Barrier would be better against holding up against larger, more bursty damage.

Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Powershot Fixes
Both Powershot and Glaive Toss have been rebuilt and should now always hit their primary targets, plus, they should also be much more responsive to secondary targets.

This new implementation of the two abilities isn’t on PTR yet but will be as soon as both abilities have been through QA. Once we have a new PTR build go live, feel free to test them and provide us with some feedback, this is when it is most important and when it can dramatically change what ends up going live.

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I'm in the process of scheduling fansite interviews with our developers to cover patch 5.2 content and design, and I'm curious what formats and topics are most popular among the community. In addition to this simple poll on preferred format, please elaborate on what you think makes for a successful (or unsuccessful) interview. Some examples:

What topics interest you most? (i.e. systems, encounters, lore, content, art, sound, etc.)
Why do you prefer the format you voted on?
What sites or podcasts are your primary sources of WoW news?
What sites or podcasts have conducted the most compelling interviews in the past?
In a single interview do you most prefer one-on-one, multiple people asking questions, or multiple developers answering questions?

Keep in mind this is specifically about press/fansite interviews with developers, and not public Q&As. The two aren't mutually exclusive and we'd like to host another developer Q&A in the near future.

Your feedback will help me assess our resources and determine a solid 5.2 interview strategy. Much appreciated!

I don't think they really address the issues that are on the forums. Its more of a PR thang, really.
It's worth pointing out that I'm specifically asking for your feedback because I want to make the developer interviews as effective as possible, and not just about PR. Our PR department does setup interviews between developers and some of the larger press/media publications/sites, but I oversee the fansite interview process and treat it as a very different animal.

I recognize that the audience frequenting fansites is completely different, typically better informed about the latest gameplay news, and prefers more in-depth design discussions.

Why is yet another dev Q&A being held on a third party site? Do you despise your own venue so much?
I'm not talking about dev Q&As. I'm talking about journalists, podcasters, and news/editorial folks sitting down with developers to interview them about World of Warcraft design, and what you think the best interview format and topics are.

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Patch 5.2 Valor Gear
Patch 5.2 brings us some new gear purchased with Valor Points. Along with the item level 476 gear from the Sunreaver Onslaught and Kirin Tor Offensive we mentioned in the last patch notes, the Shado-Pan Assault will offer a variety of item level 522 gear. Reputation is earned mostly from killing raid bosses, including LFR bosses.

You can purchase these items from Ao Pye in Townlong Steppes. It is possible that Teng of the Flying Daggers will also sell them in the future, but she currently only sells the Grand Commendation. Currently the only reward at Exalted is the Shado-Pan Assault Tabard.

Prices are the same as they have been for Valor gear recently: 1250 for the Necks/Wrists/Rings, 1750 for the Hands/Trinkets/Shoulders/Rings, and 2250 for the Chest/Legs.

522	Neck	Tank	Neck	Vanguard's Battletags	Neutral
522	Neck	Melee	Neck	Striker's Battletags	Neutral
522	Neck	Spell Spirit	Neck	Mender's Battletags	Neutral
522	Neck	Physical DPS	Neck	Flanker's Battletags	Neutral
522	Neck	Spell DPS	Neck	Destroyer's Battletags	Neutral
522	Trinket		Trinket	Steadfast Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Trinket		Trinket	Vicious Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Finger	Tank	Finger	Loop of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Finger	Melee	Finger	Band of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Finger	Spell Spirit	Finger	Ring of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Finger	Physical DPS	Finger	Seal of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly

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522	Trinket	Physical DPS	Trinket	Brutal Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Finger	Spell DPS	Finger	Signet of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Trinket	Spell DPS	Trinket	Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Trinket	Spell DPS	Trinket	Volatile Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault	Friendly
522	Cloth	Spell Spirit	Wrists	Bracers of Shielding Thought	Friendly
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Wrists	Troll-Burner Bracers	Friendly
522	Leather	Spell Spirit	Wrists	Hearthfire Armwraps	Friendly
522	Leather	Physical DPS	Wrists	Willow-Weave Armbands	Friendly
522	Mail	Spell Spirit	Wrists	Spiritcaller Cuffs	Friendly
522	Mail	Physical DPS	Wrists	Powderburn Bracers	Friendly
522	Plate	Tank	Wrists	Axebinder Wristguards	Friendly
522	Plate	Melee	Wrists	Bonecrusher Bracers	Friendly
522	Plate	Spell Spirit	Wrists	Softscar Armplates	Friendly
522	Back	Tank	Back	Many-Layered Scalecloak	Honored
522	Back	Melee	Back	Spikeshard Greatcloak	Honored

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522	Cloth	Spell Spirit	Legs	Wisp-Weave Pantaloons	Honored
522	Cloth	Spell Spirit	Hands	Ghostbinder Grips	Honored
522	Back	Spell Spirit	Back	Dreamweaver Drape	Honored
522	Back	Physical DPS	Back	Longshot Forestcloak	Honored
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Legs	Charfire Leggings	Honored
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Hands	Flameweaver Handwraps	Honored
522	Back	Spell DPS	Back	Shadowspike Cloak	Honored
522	Leather	Physical DPS	Legs	Legguards of Hidden Knives	Honored
522	Leather	Physical DPS	Hands	Daggerfinger Clutches	Honored
522	Leather	Spell DPS	Legs	Trousers of Waning Shadow	Honored
522	Leather	Spell DPS	Hands	Gloves of Enduring Renewal	Honored
522	Mail	Physical DPS	Legs	Homeguard Leggings	Honored
522	Mail	Physical DPS	Hands	Gauntlets of the Longbow	Honored
522	Mail	Spell DPS	Legs	Kilt of Rising Thunder	Honored
522	Mail	Spell DPS	Hands	Totemshaper Gloves	Honored

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522	Plate	Tank	Legs	Thunderbreaker Legplates	Honored
522	Plate	Tank	Hands	Stoneward Handguards	Honored
522	Plate	Melee	Legs	Vaultbreaker Greaves	Honored
522	Plate	Melee	Hands	Bloodstained Skullsqueezers	Honored
522	Plate	Spell DPS	Legs	Legguards of Renewal	Honored
522	Plate	Spell DPS	Hands	Touch of Soothing Mists	Honored
522	Cloth	Spell Spirit	Shoulders	Halo-Graced Mantle	Revered
522	Cloth	Spell Spirit	Chest	Robes of Misty Bindings	Revered
522	Cloth	Spell Spirit	Waist	Girdle of Glowing Light	Revered
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Shoulders	Frost-Kissed Shoulderwraps	Revered
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Shoulders	Shoulders of Demonic Dreams	Revered
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Chest	Fire Support Robes	Revered
522	Cloth	Spell DPS	Waist	Firestrike Cord	Revered
522	Leather	Spell Spirit	Shoulders	Heartroot Shoulderguards	Revered
522	Leather	Spell Spirit	Chest	Raiment of Silent Stars	Revered

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522	Leather	Spell Spirit	Waist	Martiean's Splitleaf Girdle	Revered
522	Leather	Physical DPS	Shoulders	Wallwalker Spaulders	Revered
522	Leather	Physical DPS	Chest	Roofstalker Shadowwrap	Revered
522	Leather	Physical DPS	Waist	Darkfang Belt	Revered
522	Mail	Spell Spirit	Shoulders	Lightning Strike Mantle	Revered
522	Mail	Spell Spirit	Chest	Skinsealer Tunic	Revered
522	Mail	Spell Spirit	Waist	Cracklebite Links	Revered
522	Mail	Physical DPS	Shoulders	Targetblinder Spaulders	Revered
522	Mail	Physical DPS	Chest	Carapace of Segmented Scale	Revered
522	Mail	Physical DPS	Waist	Nightflight Chain	Revered
522	Plate	Tank	Shoulders	Sparksmasher Pauldrons	Revered
522	Plate	Tank	Chest	Breastplate of Brutal Strikes	Revered
522	Plate	Tank	Waist	Reinforced Spiritplate Girdle	Revered
522	Plate	Melee	Shoulders	Sightblinder Shoulderguards	Revered
522	Plate	Melee	Chest	Gianttooth Chestplate	Revered

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522	Plate	Melee	Waist	Swordhook Slingbelt	Revered
522	Plate	Spell Spirit	Shoulders	Shoulderguards of Potentiation	Revered
522	Plate	Spell Spirit	Chest	Hauberk of Gleaming Fire	Revered
522	Plate	Spell Spirit	Waist	Waistplate of Channeled Mending	Revered
1	Other			Grand Commendation of the Shado-Pan Assault	Revered
1	Tabard		Tabard	Shado-Pan Assault Tabard	Exalted

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Warlock Green Fire Toggle
Once you have earned Green Fire, you will be able to disable it by speaking with Jubeka Shadowbreaker in Shadowmoon Valley.