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**cabby** · February 15, 2010, 06:07 PM

We would need more detailed information to help understand what you're trying to say. Things like actual step numbers, what parts you did, when it skipped, etc.

Keep in mind that the guides are designed to skip steps and parts of steps that are of no value to you when leveling if you've gotten ahead of the guide in levels.

**mortnoct** · February 16, 2010, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by cabby View Post

We would need more detailed information to help understand what you're trying to say. Things like actual step numbers, what parts you did, when it skipped, etc.

Keep in mind that the guides are designed to skip steps and parts of steps that are of no value to you when leveling if you've gotten ahead of the guide in levels.

I have left several such messages of such situations of late. Just do a Find on this forum for "mortnoct". Most of what I've been reporting has to do with this same problem.

Yes, I am ahead of the guide, but have my "levels ahead" set to 20. I'll try searching the .lua to find some examples.

**mortnoct** · February 16, 2010, 04:05 PM

}, { -- step 40
go_to(cl(64,61)),
" a. "..talk_to("Dorius Stonetender"),
" i. "..accept("Suntara Stones part 1"),
" b. Escort him until he gets murdered at 75,19(it's part of the quest)",
" c. He drops a note when he dies",
" d. Click the Singed Letter",
" i. "..turn_in("Suntara Stones part 1"),
" ii. "..accept("Suntara Stones part 2"),
completion={{questaccepted=LQ["Suntara Stones part 1##3367"]},{questturnedin=LQ["Suntara Stones part 1##3367"]},{questaccepted=LQ["Suntara Stones part 2##3368"]}},
mapzone="Searing Gorge",
level=50,
mapnote=61012490,

(I hope the above displays satisfactorily).

When I did this, I turned in the Part 1 and the guide immediately skipped to the next step. I have noticed this kind of behavior several times. I can't tell you what version of the guide I was using at the time, but I have kept pretty current.

As I said above, the "levels ahead" is/was set at 20, and yes, I have "skip useless steps" checked (I think that's what it's called).

**cabby** · February 16, 2010, 04:10 PM

Yes, I'm aware that you've mentioned some stuff in a couple other posts which I have replied to. One of the replies asked which version of the guide you're using but you have yet to reply to that. You've also stated in one that it was too long ago for you to remember exact specifics on settings and yet there was no reply when I asked how long ago is too long ago.

**cabby** · February 16, 2010, 04:14 PM

Haha, you replied as I was working on a reply.

Is it possible that the stuff it's skipping is due to you not having completed a quest earlier that's part of a chain?

Also, I think I've seen in other posts that any setting above 4 or 5 for the slider doesn't really work well unless it's set at 80 to not skip anything. Maybe just set the slider to 80 and un-check all boxes so there is no skipping at all since you'll pretty much never get 20 levels ahead of the guide if you're already working on the level 50 section of the guide.

**mortnoct** · February 17, 2010, 08:22 AM

"... too long ago" means several days.

Right now I'm using the guide as downloaded on 2/15/2010. Prior to that it was the version downloaded on 12/20/2009. That's all I can say about versions.

This means that the version from 12/20 was likely the one that gave the situation described here.

Yes, I know I can uncheck and set to level 80 and go my merry way. From my perspective, there seems to be a problem as I've indicated. Unfortunately it is impossible to go back and re-try it. But since it has happened several times (three or four I believe), it still seems that something is sour.

I haven't looked at the viewer code yet. That's next on my list.

**mortnoct** · February 24, 2010, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by cabby View Post

We would need more detailed information to help understand what you're trying to say. Things like actual step numbers, what parts you did, when it skipped, etc.

Keep in mind that the guides are designed to skip steps and parts of steps that are of no value to you when leveling if you've gotten ahead of the guide in levels.

Here's what I've encountered so far. I have not been able to make much sense of the viewer code, but I have examined the ZygorGuideAlliance.lua code (or script, or whatever). I have observed two situations as follows:

(Note: snippits are from the 55-60 section. "TSRoT" is "The Smildering Ruins of Therissin")

}, { -- step 95
go_to(cl(38,55)),
" a. "..talk_to("Royal Historian Archesonus"),
" i. "..accept("TSRoT part 1"),
" b. "..talk_to("Royal Historian Archesonus"),

...Note: At this point, or immediately after doing the accept, the viewer skipped way down to the "Go Northwest to Searing Gorge" step.

" c. Listen to her story",
" d. "..talk_to("Royal Historian Archesonus"),
" ii. "..turn_in("TSRoT part 1"),
" iii. "..accept("TSRoT part 2"),
completion={{questaccepted=LQ["TSRoT part 1##3702"]},
{questturnedin=LQ["TSRoT part 1##3702"]},
{questaccepted=LQ["TSRoT part 2##3701"]}},
mapzone="Ironforge",
level=56,
mapnote=55309370,

---------------------

Here is a similar situation which happens later, and this time there were no improper skips.

}, { -- step 109
go_to(cl(85,69)),
" a. "..talk_to("Oralius"),
" i. "..turn_in("Extinguish the Firegut"),
" ii. "..accept("Gor'tesh the Brute Lord"),
" iii. "..turn_in("FIFTY! YEP!"),
completion={{questturnedin=LQ["Extinguish the Firegut"]},
{questaccepted=LQ["Gor'tesh the Brute Lord"]},
{questturnedin=LQ["FIFTY! YEP!"]}},
mapzone="Burning Steppes",
level=56,
mapnote=68715330,

Now, what are the differences between these two situations?

First, each quest dealt with in the second case is different.
Second, there are no ##3701/##3702 constructs.

The software engineer in me is suspicious of how these two situations are handled in the "questturnedin" and "questaccepted" handlers. I heartily suggest that the developers take a look.

**Zygor** · February 24, 2010, 05:10 PM

Hmm, the code you are posting here is extremely ancient code from our guides. The new code for our guides is very different than this.

Try deleting all Zygor folders from your entire computer, then download and install our guides again.

**lilocowboy** · February 25, 2010, 08:19 AM

Just curious...

I am posting on this thread because if reminded me of what I encounter and not sure if it is normal. So sorry if it is not directly tied to this.

I started a new toon and wanted to try it other then using it with pre lvled toons. My wife has had the same situation.

Example:
I pick up a quest and turn it in. Then it wants me to accept a quest and it seems to auto accept but the page is still there and if I wanted I could not accept even though I am directed to but still have the quest.

I guess the reason I am bringing this up is that I have gone oh crap go back to pick up the quest but it is not there to be picked up but is in the Guest log. Weird.

Not complaining at all. Was just wondering. The guide is great and is very useful for lvling so I can play my 80s in getting geared. Thanks for your time and effort in this guide.

**Zygor Dev 1** · February 25, 2010, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by lilocowboy View Post

I pick up a quest and turn it in. Then it wants me to accept a quest and it seems to auto accept but the page is still there and if I wanted I could not accept even though I am directed to but still have the quest.

That's Blizzard's new feature from patch 3.2 - low level quests get automatically accepted, though the button still says "accept". Nobody on the forums or anywhere else seems to like this behaviour, but it's there and Blizzard says it's "working as intended". Well thank you for an utterly useless and confusing "feature"...

Actually, we might just tweak the dialogue window to be a bit less confusing, for convenience - but until then it's Blizzard's "working as intended". No comment on that.

**Kamchak** · February 25, 2010, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by zgdev View Post

That's Blizzard's new feature from patch 3.2 - low level quests get automatically accepted, though the button still says "accept". Nobody on the forums or anywhere else seems to like this behaviour, but it's there and Blizzard says it's "working as intended". Well thank you for an utterly useless and confusing "feature"...

Actually, we might just tweak the dialogue window to be a bit less confusing, for convenience - but until then it's Blizzard's "working as intended". No comment on that.

LOL has to be the most frustrated I have seen you display in this forum.

Sounds to me like they meant to say "We finally got something to work. Yeah no one likes it, but it 'works as intended.' FINALLY something we made works."

**mortnoct** · February 25, 2010, 04:48 PM

WoW! You're correct. I did rmdir/sl Zygor* and then reinstalled the newest Alliance download. (I know it's the latest because it told me so.) BTW, this included BOTH Alliance and Horde guides.

However, this is the version that I was using for the problem described earlier in this thread. I looked at the new code, and it seems there might be some problem with acceptquest and/or turninquest. SOMTHING is causing the consistent, and incorrect IMHO, skipping after accepting some part of a quest in situations that require a turnin of that part in the same step.

Here is another:

Level 55-60, step 110 came up as:

. Talk to Cyrus Therepentus
. Accept A Taste of Flame (part 1)
**** viewer immediately skipped after accepting
. Present proof of your deeds
. Turn in A Taste of Flame (part 1)

BTW, I think it would be "Talk to him again to present proof".

**Zygor Dev 1** · February 25, 2010, 08:57 PM

I believe an upcoming update should alleviate this problem, as a certain condition regarding the sequence of changes a quest goes through as it's accepted or turned in has undergone a slight change.

**kriterian** · March 1, 2010, 09:25 PM

No quests auto completing

I'm not sure how my situation is different but I'm having several problems.

I started out with the 1-13 Night Elf guide and then fast forwarded to approximately where I was at level 16. That was the Darkshore area, so I proceded to run around and gather up all the quests it said too.

NONE of my quests are checking themselves off in the guide when I accept them or complete steps. I have to manually click them each and every time.

Something strange is also going on with the quest log. Sometimes, especially when quests have several parts but with the same name each time like Bashal'Alaran in Darkshore it messes things up. Quests I've accepted don't appear in the log, ones I've completed (and sometimes already turned in) show up in the objectives window with no progress. I can't see the quests in the log, and since I can't pull them up there I can't abandon them either.

I've uninstalled everything I can think of that would affect the quest log but nothing else uses it. Here is a list of mods I'm using to see if there is some kind of conflict:

!swatter
Ackis Recipe List
AKS Shardmax
Align
ArkInventory
Atlas
AtlasLoot
Auctioneer
BadBoy
Bag_Sort
Bartender
BeanCounter
Bison Buff Bars
All the Blizzard stuff
ButtonFacade
Chatter
CoPilot (for Argent Tourney and ToC)
DBM
EasyMail
Enchatrix
Fast Disenchant
Fontain (Fonts)
ForteXorcist
GearScore Lite
Grid
Healbot
Informant
Lagbar
Lightheaded
MageNuggets
MBB
MikSBT
Nauticus
Omen
OmniCC
oRA2
Pitbull
pMinimap
PowerAuras
Quartz
RankWatch
Recount
Slidebar
Stubby
TidyPlates
TipTac
TomTom
WIM
Xloot
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