Tanking anyone?

[kenman76]

Are there any plans to include a tanking talent drop down menu for classes that can be tanks? This would be quite useful due to the introduction of the dungeon finder to the game.

Thanks

[cabby]

What exactly do you mean by a tanking drop down menu? Are you referring to talent builds that are oriented toward grouping or something else?

[jara]

I think I understand, he is talking about the talent advisor to include a tanking builds.

For instance, I create a DK and not only I'm gonna level trough the guide but also using the Dungeon Finder playing a tank role, since SIS is already implemented I don't see any problem doing this.

[cabby]

Ahh, that I understand. While there might not be any immediate plans for including grouping type builds there have been some posting in the Official Talent Builds Thread that can be used to add into the Talent Advisor. You can also create your own builds to use with the Talent Advisor. I've done so myself with a priest that is leveling solely thru the LFG tool and I also have a protection paladin build that I'm using on a paladin that I'm leveling thru the LFG tool as a tank.

[Werderx]

On a side note, you will find all optimal tanking talent builds for all viable classes at:
http://elitistjerks.com/forums.php
and
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/

[jara]

Ahh, that I understand. While there might not be any immediate plans for including grouping type builds there have been some posting in the Official Talent Builds Thread that can be used to add into the Talent Advisor. You can also create your own builds to use with the Talent Advisor. I've done so myself with a priest that is leveling solely thru the LFG tool and I also have a protection paladin build that I'm using on a paladin that I'm leveling thru the LFG tool as a tank.

On a side note, you will find all optimal tanking talent builds for all viable classes at:
http://elitistjerks.com/forums.php
and
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/

Thanks you both!

[cabby]

If you have any problems with creating your own talent build to use with the Talent Advisor just let us know either here or in the post I linked before and we'll help you get it up and running.

[kenman76]

On a side note, you will find all optimal tanking talent builds for all viable classes at:
http://elitistjerks.com/forums.php
and
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/

I look at both of these sites on a regular basis depending on the toon I'm leveling up. I have yet to find a post that goes into detail which talents you want to have for tanking according to the level range you are currently at (i.e. 40-45 or 45-50). I was just thinking that it would be really cool if the talent advisor would also have a "best practices" tanking (or healing build according to the class that you're playing) so that you could be guided towards having the best talent specs according to your level. There are quite a few talents that aren't necessary for you to have right away and there are some that are mandatory for you to have right away.

Just thought I'd throw it out there as a suggestion to further enhance the great guide you've already created.

[Skippyninja]

Equip a shield... Problem solved

[Werderx]

Equip a shield... Problem solved

Indeed, sir.

Also, if you just look through and read the talents that were advised within the builds given on the websites, your brain will tell you what you would want a.s.a.p.

While it can be argued that having these different builds within the guide can help with leveling, i STRONGLY suggest against it.

I do not want a person tanking or healing for my group that didn't do their homework and figure out what each talent does, and what they need to do.

This guide is designed to take newbs (and tenured ppl) from beginning to end lvl as quick as possible. I do not want the guide to give these noobs the steering wheel of a group and saying, "ready, go"... that is a horrible idea.

If people want to tank or heal, they need to do their homework and figure it out.

[Skippyninja]

I love tanking, but just be careful. If you're lower level than the other members in your party, it may be difficult to hold aggro.

[owensd]

I look at both of these sites on a regular basis depending on the toon I'm leveling up. I have yet to find a post that goes into detail which talents you want to have for tanking according to the level range you are currently at (i.e. 40-45 or 45-50). I was just thinking that it would be really cool if the talent advisor would also have a "best practices" tanking (or healing build according to the class that you're playing) so that you could be guided towards having the best talent specs according to your level. There are quite a few talents that aren't necessary for you to have right away and there are some that are mandatory for you to have right away.

Just thought I'd throw it out there as a suggestion to further enhance the great guide you've already created.

http://panzercow.wordpress.com/2009/...-levels-10-20/

Guides for other level are on there as well. It's a pretty decent guide as well.

[kenman76]

Equip a shield... Problem solved

While being a cute and quick witted statement, it doesn't exactly apply to druids or Death Knights.

[kenman76]

Indeed, sir.

Also, if you just look through and read the talents that were advised within the builds given on the websites, your brain will tell you what you would want a.s.a.p.

While it can be argued that having these different builds within the guide can help with leveling, i STRONGLY suggest against it.

I do not want a person tanking or healing for my group that didn't do their homework and figure out what each talent does, and what they need to do.

This guide is designed to take newbs (and tenured ppl) from beginning to end lvl as quick as possible. I do not want the guide to give these noobs the steering wheel of a group and saying, "ready, go"... that is a horrible idea.

If people want to tank or heal, they need to do their homework and figure it out.

I can't agree with you on this simply because of the fact that people will not stay with a tank that either a) can't hold aggro or b) can't tank. So I don't see the harm in requesting a guide that will skim out the un-needed talents in the early levels (as this guide does for the leveling portion) and merely make recommended suggestions as to what talents you should take according to the build you're going to use.

If people decide to stay with a tank that can't do the job or doesn't know their abilities and spell rotations then I blame them not the creators of the guide. I've seen plenty of level 80 "tanks" that didn't know how to tank. So I think attributing that aspect to the guide is a gross exaggeration.

And to once again clarify, this was only a suggestion and question aimed at the developers of the guide to determine if this kind of feature would be coming out in future updates of the guide.

[enzore_dax]

Yes it would be nice to have other specs built in. Besides if you end up with a tank or healer that isn't cutting it "Vote Kick" 90% of the time the other members will click yes without even looking at who's being kicked.